BBC Star and Same Sex Couples Dancing; Liza Minnelli Leaves NY; Ellen and Caitlyn Jenner

BBC Star and Same Sex Couples Dancing 

I’ve posted about this topic before. I think it was back when Michael Sam was on Dancing With the Stars here in the US and I was hoping he’d dance with a man. I honestly don’t know how that turned out because I didn’t watch. However, I’ve been hoping that one of these mainstream dance competition shows would have men dancing with men the way real life gay men dance with other men in real life. Evidently, that’s not about to happen soon.

In this case a BBC star is alleging they wouldn’t allow him to dance with a man on the UK TV show, Strictly Come Dancing. I think this is the first time anyone’s actually addressed the issue and spoken up about it in public in detail. But I could be wrong about that. Either way, it’s still newsworthy.

A gay quizzing star on the BBC has claimed Strictly Come Dancing rejected him because he wanted to dance with a man.

Eggheads’ CJ de Mooi, who claims he was being considered for the show, said he would appear but only if he would dance with a male professional.

Jeremy Vine, the presenter of Eggheads, was chosen as a contestant.

Speaking to the Mirror, he said: ‘I can’t believe they picked Jeremy over me. I’m quite upset. It’s because I wanted to dance in a same-sex couple.

‘Someone at the BBC told me at least for the foreseeable future neither Strictly Come Dancing or the US version Dancing With The Stars will have a same-sex couple on. How disappointing.’

The article goes on to state they want to keep these shows family shows, with quotes from a BBC spokesperson. You can read the rest here.  

Liza Minnelli Leaves NY

I know this is being headlined as gay icon Liza Minnelli leaves NYC, but I think of it more as a pop culture story. Even though I’ve never totally understood the gay icon mindset with performers like Bette Midler and Cher, I do think Minnelli is as important to pop culture as Andy Warhol was.

And now Minnelli is leaving NY for sunnier weather in LA.

But that’s about to change. The EGOT-winner has just sold her posh Upper East Side pad for a cool $8.37 mill (check out the amazing photos here) because she hasn’t been spending much time in the building, which was also home to Joan Crawford at one time.

The lady is heading west to live in eternally-sunny L.A., where she was raised as show biz royalty as the daughter of Judy Garland and Vincente Minnelli.

Of course she will be back in NY for work related reasons. You can read more here. 

Ellen and Caitlyn Jenner

I didn’t see this interview with Ellen and Caitlyn so I can only go by this link and what I’ve read.

Caitlyn Jenner, divorced three times when she was Bruce, has admitted to Ellen DeGeneres that she used to be against same-sex marriage.

‘I have to admit – I remember 15 years ago, 20 years ago whenever it was when the whole gay marriage issue came up – at first I was not for it,’ Jenner says in an interview to air on Monday (7 September).

‘I mean I thought I’m a traditionalist. I’m older than most people in the audience. I kind of like tradition and it’s always been a man and a woman. And I’m thinking I don’t quite get it. But as time has gone on, I think like a lot of people on this issue have really changed their thinking here to I don’t ever want to stand in front of anybody’s happiness. That’s not my job.’

I can’t say the same for myself. I’ve always been for legal same sex marriage. However, I do know other gay people who weren’t always on board much the same way Jenner describes it above. But they are now. So I think this might be a generational thing and it all needs time to evolve.

The comments are mixed, and very strong at times.  

In any event, there’s more here. 

New Release

Straights Don’t Like Gay PDA; Bette Midler Gay Culture Is Ordinary; Strictly Come Dancing With Gay Couples

Straights Don’t Like Gay PDA (Public Display of Affection)

This is interesting because there’s a mixed message coming from many in the mainstream with regard to gay people showing any signs of public affection, in direct contrast with gay rights and equality. In this case it’s gay people (men and women) kissing in public.

In a survey of 1,000 Americans, 70% said they supported inheritance rights for gay couples, but far fewer were supportive of gay people kissing in public. 

Of the straights interviewed, 95% said they approved of straight couples kissing on the cheek in public, but only 55% approved of gay male couples doing the same. When asked if it was a lesbian couple, 72% approved. 

Over 20% of heterosexuals surveyed even disapproved of gay men telling the respondents about their relationships.

You can read the rest here. I think this just proves how much discrimination there is out there, and how much all LGBT people need to start standing up for themselves in different ways…which will happen in time. I also think as more gays assimilate this PDA issue will disappear eventually.

Bette Midler Gay Culture Is Ordinary

First, in full disclosure, I’ve been gay all my life and frankly Bette Midler’s never been my most favorite performer. I like some things she’s done, others not so much. So this notion that all gay men think of her as an icon isn’t exactly correct. I really do think it’s becoming more important to clarify some things, and one is that Midler’s only an icon to a certain segment of the gay community, not the entire gay community.(The same goes for Kathy Griffin, Liza, Cher, and a few others.) You can read this piece by Nick Boeving about gay icon, the late Joan Rivers.

So with that out of the way, I’m going to remain as objective as I can to Midler’s recent statements:

‘The extreme characters you used to see in the Village in the old days, you just don’t see them anymore,’ Midler tells 

‘I really do miss them because there was a feeling I used to get that people were expressing themselves in the most elaborate of ways,’ she adds. ‘Now the [gay community] has kind of gone mainstream. It’s sort of ordinary now, and a little bit of the specialness has rubbed away.’

I can’t help but think that sounds a lot like a confederate southerner after the Civil War claiming how much they miss the good old days of slavery before the Civil War. Or even worse, it’s like men of the 21st century saying they miss the good old days when women in the 19th century couldn’t vote, work, or in some cases even own property and handle their own money.

I don’t know WTF she’s talking about with regard to “specialness.” Maybe she should watch more Glee. Or, Ask Oprah and her best friend Gayle to do a special on OWN abut it.

Look at it this way, Midler would never have said that about any other minority in America without getting slammed from one end to the other. And, this is really another good example of passive aggressive homophobia where the straight person making the comments doesn’t even realize it. I don’t think Midler meant harm.

You can read the rest here.  

Strictly Come Dancing With Gay Couples

I posted a while back about an article where someone slammed the concept of gay people dancing together in high profile dancing competitions…like the TV show, Dancing With the Stars. I’m too lazy to look for that link, however, this article to which I’m linking now discusses gay couples dancing on a BBC show called Strictly Come Dancing.

Strictly Come Dancing will feature same-sex couples dancing together for the first time this weekend.

The BBC dancing competition show will feature the professional dancers doing a ‘Cops and Robbers’ routine, likely to appear on Sunday night’s results show (23 November).

Gay pro Robin Windsor, who was forced to pull out of this year’s competition due to a back injury, will return to dance alongside the other pros.

You can read more here. It’s happening, slowly but surely. It’s still making headlines, it’s still shocking to many, but someone should let Bette Midler know that now we’re actually allowed to dance together on big TV shows just like everyone else. It may sound ordinary to some, but it’s one more step toward equality for the rest of us and I for one don’t miss the “good old days.”

The Sheriff and the Outlaw

by Ryan Field